Would other models agree?
A new alignment seed gives another trial with the same embeddings. To speak of other model families, we must choose them before seeing the results, then report every pairing and failure.
Not yet testedAN INQUIRY INTO UNPAIRED ROSETTA 10 OCT 2026
Let us ask of Unpaired Rosetta: how much of the agreement belongs to what is seen, and how much to the models through which we see it?
This scene is an allegory made for the inquiry. The measured evidence is given below.
01 / THE QUESTION
What follows from agreement?
The chosen encoders may share training data, objectives, or useful biases. If we repeat the solver but keep the encoders, we have not yet asked whether other models would agree.
A new alignment seed gives another trial with the same embeddings. To speak of other model families, we must choose them before seeing the results, then report every pairing and failure.
Not yet testedTwo datasets may bear different names and still contain the same images. The metadata shows that some COCO source images are described in Stanford Paragraph Captioning (SPC).
Metadata examinedTo find a horse is not yet to distinguish this horse, its number, its place, or what it does. Retrieval must also be tested among things of the same kind, where broad categories no longer suffice.
Further trials proposedTHE FIRST CASE · PAUSED FOR REVIEW
Let the claim be no larger than the trial.
Can one fixed image model and one fixed word model recover object-category correspondence on later kitchen recordings, when their alignment receives no paired episodes? That is the first question. Original DINOv1 and GloVe give us a case whose training sources we can examine.
WHY BEGIN HERE?
A narrower claim is easier to defend.
The training corpora predate these recorded episodes. Under the published training histories, memorizing these particular episodes cannot explain a result. This makes the case stronger against direct episode exposure. Familiar objects, ordinary phrases and the choices of the model builders remain part of the account.
The question is small; the present run is substantial. One model pair, one source of recordings and one primary measure keep the claim narrow. The frozen plan nevertheless calls for 9,392 clips, 37,568 frames and 17 fits. It is a first controlled case, not the smallest possible demonstration.
The ImageNet-1K collection, used without class labels by original DINOv1 ViT-B/16. DINO training record · ImageNet release
Original GloVe 6B: Wikipedia 2014 and the older Gigaword 5 collection. We average its word vectors without further language training. Original GloVe release
EPIC-KITCHENS-55 recordings and their human narrations. The recording years come from the per-video metadata. Recording dates
These are corpus and recording dates, not model publication dates. The argument depends on the documented training histories and publisher-supplied dates. A short phrase may occur in both old text and a later narration; that alone is not exposure to the later episode.
The existing sample was fixed before alignment scores: 6,639 fitting clips, 1,127 development clips and 1,626 test clips. The seven test kitchens appear in neither other partition.
Selection checkedThe main fit receives images from 73 videos and text from 74 different videos. Known-pair mappings, shuffled-pair mappings, random maps and separate encoder probes help us interpret success and failure.
17 fits prescribed · pausedThe first measure asks whether the nearest description has the same annotated noun class. Each test kitchen receives equal weight; duplicate descriptions and exact ties are accounted for. Recognizing a cup does not yet distinguish this cup or what is done with it.
No benchmark scores| What we observe | What we may conclude |
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| Unpaired retrieval exceeds the negative controls; paired retrieval also works. | Evidence of recoverable object-category correspondence for this pair on later episodes. Shared concepts and model biases remain possible explanations for that correspondence. |
| Paired retrieval works; unpaired retrieval does not. | The frozen features support a useful mapping with pairing information. The tested unpaired procedure has not recovered it under these conditions. |
| Neither paired nor unpaired retrieval works. | The features, pooling, task or domain may be unsuitable. This outcome alone cannot identify the unpaired solver as the cause. |
Unexpected behavior between controls also needs investigation. No outcome from this one pair establishes a universal representation, understanding of actions or syntax, or independence from model choice. Changing both the models and the benchmark cannot measure how much contamination affected the original COCO/SPC result.
The run is paused. Acquisition and its supervisor were suspended on 10 October 2026 before any full EPIC alignment scores. Existing data, caches and the fixed protocol are preserved. A proposed smaller pilot below has not run.
The controls have limits too. Paired and shared-episode controls use all fitting clips, a larger information budget than the main disjoint fit. Annotated action windows supply preprocessing supervision. These comparisons cannot isolate contamination by themselves.
Work record · 10 October 2026. Paused-run record · Code and checks. The earlier pilot below used different models and data.
EXAMINING THE SOURCES
We joined the SPC, Visual Genome, and COCO metadata. In the released cross-dataset setup, some descriptions and images refer to the same source.
Read the source recordThis establishes shared sources. It does not show that the aligner was told which items were pairs. The effect on published performance is still unknown; this finding does not concern the separate disjoint-half COCO experiment.
02 / THE EARLIER PILOT
The first check held the models still.
Keep DINOv2-B and MPNet fixed. Remove the known shared sources, then compare each removal with a random-removal control of the same size.
O / ORIGINAL
Keep the known validation and training source matches. This gives us the starting condition.
What do we observe before removing either kind of shared source?
These are the full populations, before the pilot’s 4,096-row cap. Here we count paragraph rows; above we count unique COCO images. Random controls use selection seed 0.
Ask each the same questions. Every arm uses the same three 2,048-query sets and complete 40,504-item gallery. Clean, all-population, and originally exposed queries are sampled separately.
Say only what was removed. “Source-disjoint” means known metadata identities only. Missing mappings, visual near-duplicates, and pretraining overlap remain unresolved. Random deletion matches size, not semantic composition.
03 / WHAT HAS BEEN SHOWN
Recorded · 10 October 2026
Each of the five conditions completed three alignment seeds. The reduced pilot shows that the runs finish, the exclusions are applied, and the saved results pass consistency checks.
Each fit uses 4,096 training rows per modality. These equal caps remove the full-population size contrasts. The scores therefore do not estimate the effects of the planned full-data exclusions.
Read the checksVerification did not recompute embedding similarities or Recall@k from scratch.
FOSCTTM below uses the same clean queries against the full gallery. Lower is better. These reduced runs check the procedure; their scores do not answer the scientific question. Every seed is shown.
| Arm | Fit seed | Status | FOSCTTM | Fit time |
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THE RECORDS
The protocol and evidence records are below. They describe the work as it stood on the date shown; they do not update as experiments run.